Best LCD Tv?

[Zack1990]

Ok folks i need your recommendations... gunna get an LCD hopefully in the 40 to 50 inch range (that's probably a pipe dream though). But I'm getting fed up trying to figure out which will give me the best bang for the buck... plus i think they may be changing the specifications for contrast now (no doubt just to scramble my brain more). Any recommendations on which one i should look at?

[slickblackcoupe]

hey zack u ever looked into the dlps i just bought on a couple of months ago
Mitsubishi - 60" rear projection TV i got mine for about 1400 bucks with a 3 year warrnt

[bobdines]

Ok folks i need your recommendations... gunna get an LCD hopefully in the 40 to 50 inch range (that's probably a pipe dream though). But I'm getting fed up trying to figure out which will give me the best bang for the buck... plus i think they may be changing the specifications for contrast now (no doubt just to scramble my brain more). Any recommendations on which one i should look at?

52" xbr goes for about 2250.LCD

[polarbear67`]

look for one with 120Hz refresh rate - picture is much smoother

[glencf]

Helllo. I just went through an exhaustive search for a TV.

LCD:
I didn't like the Samsung 650, 750 because they have too reflective of a screen. I thought the Samsung 630 (which is semi-matte) didn't have nearly as good black levels.

Plasma:
The Panasonic 800U model is THX certified, great color accuracy without as much need for calibration. The 24p / 48 hz mode causes flicker. I love the viewing angles of Plasmas, but the whites look dirtier and not as much "pop" as LCDs. I like the Pioneer 5020FD plasma, which has an effective 24p / 72 hz mode, but it was rather expensive. The Plasmas tend to be more reflective also, use more electricity, and weigh more. Burn-in is possible, but this problem has been largely mitigated in recent models. It's recommended you go through a break-in cycle. Mostly you will just see short term image retention, not burn-in. I believe both of these plasmas are available in 50" rather than 52".

My Choice: LCD
I liked the Sony W4100 and XBR6, which have semi-matte screens, 120 hz & motion smoothing. The 120 hz allows proper cadence of 24p playback just as the 48 hz and 72 hz modes of the Plasmas mentioned. You can also enable motion smoothing, which interpolates an extra frame between existing frames. When enabled, it not only provides a smoother motion during playback, but improves motion resolution. Black levels are excellent on these two, better with the XBR6, and exceed that of some plasmas. I read a couple things about the Z4100 that concerned me, so I just looked for a deal on the W4100 or XBR6, and finally went with the W4100. I'm very happy with the picture, and I saved about $800 vs the XBR6. If the XBR6 had been $400 less, I probably would have gone ahead and gone with that. Prices have dropped recently. It certainly shouldn't hurt to wait a while longer. Sony makes an XBR8, which is LED backlit. It's way up there in price. this was posted by a member here..................

[Iceman3]

Over the holidays my wife and I bought an LG 32" LCD for our bedroom, we bought a 52" Sharp Aquios for the living room, yeserday I bought a Nevineo HD. Both these tv's are perfect for us, like was said above the LCD has a non reflective screen, we need that with all the large windows in our house. We also have the sonicview 800HD but I haven't yet put up my 129 dish. I just got back from buying a Samsung DVD recorder and a Toshiba DVD recorder, gonna try them out later today. The LCD TV seems to work really well in a well lit room even the window behind my couch doesn't show in the screen. My brothers both have Plasma and that is one of their complaints is reflection. Hope some of this helps.

[jibberjabber]

I currently use a cheaper hi def plasma, and if I were to buy a new one it would still be a plasma all the way. If you watch a lot of sports like i do (hockey, football), then the plasma is the way to go. I don't care what anybody says about refresh rates on the new lcd's, you still see the annoying tails and streaks in fast moving action. My brother has a top of the line Sharp, and I still prefer my cheap ass plasma for sports. Glare is plasma's Achilles heal so a dark room or one without windows will help a lot. If money were no object, then Pioneer is the brand to go with. Panasonic is a close second, and now the newer plasmas come in 1080p. From the lcd standpoint, Sharp appears to be the leader. Good luck on what you decide.:D

[Zack1990]

thanks for the input folks, it helps big time! I have a rear projection Toshiba now and about 5 years old and the ruddy thing is dieing for some reason (never had bad luck with a toshiba before but this one isn't holding up well). I've been "ordered" to purchase an Lcd so i'm stuck with that as the target (so the plasma and rear projection machines are out of my target area i'm afraid).

So essentially it sounds like i should look into a 120Hz unit with a non-reflective screen. It sounds like I don't have to worry about the contrast specifications (the 1:500000000 type of sheet)? That's a relief because those numbers were starting to really bug me.

That info really cuts down my work load folks and is really appreciated! Thanks!

[srsrsr]

If you dont want to spend the most to get the newest tech.. I have a LCD 47 viewsonic 1080p but its the older ( few months old) 60hz.. I am pretty happy with it when combined with a true 1080 p hd reciever it is sharp and crisp...best of all it was only 999 cdn at co stco.. I like viewsonic.. if you have to look atta a monitor all day long there are a lot worse choices out there.. I think the refresh rate is like 6 ms too :)

[Vallarta]

well Z...if you like toshiba...check out this baby....60hz
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/product.grp?lg=en&section=2&group=6&product=8755&category=picked this up on boxing day for the bedroom($1399ca from future shop)
negotiate to this price or better if u'r interested in it
i have a toshiba 61" in the livingroom...8yrs and no problems so far
don't have an hd box so action shots aren't the best but the pic is excellent for movies etc
120hz is around $2000-$2400 here

[polarbear67`]

for the record Z - I think All LCD screens have the Matte non reflective screens too - so you can cross that off your to chekc list - free up some RAM - lol

[polarbear67`]

also a lot of Rear proj screens just have bulbs that wear out . they are facny bulbs of course , they use a mercury or metal halide bulb - may be able to replace e, if its just a dim picture

[Zack1990]

also a lot of Rear proj screens just have bulbs that wear out . they are facny bulbs of course , they use a mercury or metal halide bulb - may be able to replace e, if its just a dim picture

that what i thought when it started to darken about a year ago, but it turned out to be the main input circuit board (it had alot of fritzing capacitors) ... $300.00 repair :mad: I have to re-align the canons alot too (so it's breasts must be starting to sag) and i'm sure the bulb is going too at this point. I don't get it, i must have purchase a 'monday morning robot hangover' unit.

I will look into the machine you linked to V, thanks! But there's a good example of confusion for me... where do you see the 60hz info? Actually i can't even spot the contrast numbers in there either (but i don't have to worry about that anymore), but where is the 60hz vs 120hz specification info on all those units (Toshiba, Sony, etc). Is it listed as the video input signal? :confused:

[Iceman3]

that what i thought when it started to darken about a year ago, but it turned out to be the main input circuit board (it had alot of fritzing capacitors) ... $300.00 repair :mad: I have to re-align the canons alot too (so it's breasts must be starting to sag) and i'm sure the bulb is going too at this point. I don't get it, i must have purchase a 'monday morning robot hangover' unit.

I will look into the machine you linked to V, thanks! But there's a good example of confusion for me... where do you see the 60hz info? Actually i can't even spot the contrast numbers in there either (but i don't have to worry about that anymore), but where is the 60hz vs 120hz specification info on all those units (Toshiba, Sony, etc). Is it listed as the video input signal? :confused:

In the spec's on all TV's its called the refresh rate, 120 is the newest and best so far.

[Zack1990]

Thanks Iceman3... i must be flippin blind... too much playing with myself i guess.. on the other hand mom always told me that it would go blind sitting so close to the tv (but i only do that for those special anatomy movies ;):D )

[bobdines]

Thanks Iceman3... i must be flippin blind... too much playing with myself i guess.. on the other hand mom always told me that it would go blind sitting so close to the tv (but i only do that for those special anatomy movies ;):D )

Its worth it. get a LCD!

You can save 400$ buying the 52"

[Zack1990]

i hear ya on the Sony, i've just had such good luck (until now) with Toshiba that i'm waffling and waffling and waffling... will let ya know and post some comparisons for you folks to comment on..

[Zack1990]

ok... how bout this guy... feel free to say, "wtf! have understood anything in this post??!" :)

Toshiba Regza 52XV545U

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0770HDS0010111250&logon=&langid=EN


Sony or Sharp instead?

[polarbear67`]

ok... how bout this guy... feel free to say, "wtf! have understood anything in this post??!" :)

Toshiba Regza 52XV545U

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0770HDS0010111250&logon=&langid=EN


Sony or Sharp instead?

thats a sweet unit - my bro got one last year - very nice (Toshiba)

But should be able to get for just under 2K now. - was 2600 about a year ago - got for 2300 i have seen em advertised for 1800- 1900

[Iceman3]

ok... how bout this guy... feel free to say, "wtf! have understood anything in this post??!" :)

Toshiba Regza 52XV545U

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0770HDS0010111250&logon=&langid=EN


Sony or Sharp instead?

Looks nice Zack, now you wanna borrow my truck?......lol

[Zack1990]

wow yeah, i got carried away abit eh.... 52 is sorta big, maybe 46 or 42 otta do it...

[Grandmama]

Go for it zack....how about this one....lol

-http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0770HDS0010100091&catid=



wow yeah, i got carried away abit eh.... 52 is sorta big, maybe 46 or 42 otta do it...

[Zack1990]

lol what is it GM (the link broke for me here)... a 72 inch sucker? lol There's a guy to who lives near me who sprays his tv on a full projector screen - it's gotta be, no sheet, about 10x10 feet... people on the street stop and watch the hockey game... lol

[Grandmama]

Couldn't get it either....strange....65" sharp....shit its only $7499....+++
Thought I heard last year that they were manufacturing one that was 12' wide...holy crap....
We bought a 50" sony wega a couple of years ago...for downstairs....don't use it for anything other than the wii...keeps the grandkids busy when they come here....:D

Just a small note on this....we paid less than $1000 for it at the brick.....has an excellent pic....



lol what is it GM (the link broke for me here)... a 72 inch sucker? lol There's a guy to who lives near me who sprays his tv on a full projector screen - it's gotta be, no sheet, about 10x10 feet... people on the street stop and watch the hockey game... lol

[fijigrog]

sharp the best for lcd,sony close with v or w series

[Zack1990]

thanks Fiji, now i'm back to square one... :mad: :D... k, which sharp would you recommend?

[buddmann98ca]

This is what me and the wife picked up for x-mas for our gift
hxxp://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0770HDS0010099946&catid=
... along with 1000 watt surround sound.
Was limited for space between fireplace and front windows ...
We love it. Been researching them for over a year and decided that this was the best bang for the buck . Can even play mp3 files through the usb wiselink ... only available at futureshop. exclusive store models.

[Zack1990]

Budd i can't connect to the link you posted... what machine is it?

[glencf]

it links to future shop but shows nuthin ......zack the best lcd tv barnone is the sony xbr6/go have a look at it its stunning great tv

[buddmann98ca]

Budd i can't connect to the link you posted... what machine is it?
Try the link now ...

ith Samsung's stylish 40" LN40A550 LCD HDTV, you'll experience your favourite movies, shows, sports and games in an incredible Full HD 1080p resolution. With the Wide Colour Enhancer, it covers 72% of the colour gamut, and the 30,000:1 true contrast ratio delivers truer blacks and brighter whites. The end result is fully immersive, unparallelled viewing experience
WebID: 10099946
Mfr. Part Number: LN40A550P3FXZC
Video Features
3:2 Pulldown detection Yes
Aspect Ratio Widescreen (16:9)
Brightness Not Provided By Manufacturer
Comb Filter Not Provided By Manufacturer
Display Capabilities 480p/720p/1080p
Display Technology LCD
Dynamic Contrast Ratio 30,000:1
HD Compatible Yes
Input Capabilities 480i/480p/720p/960p/1080i/1080p
Native Resolution 1920 x 1080
Picture-In-Picture Yes
Refresh Rate 60Hz
Response Time 5ms
Screen Size 40"
True Contrast Ratio Not Provided By Manufacturer
TV Tuner ATSC/QAM
Video Processor DNiE+
Viewing Angle 178 Degrees
Audio Features
Audio Enhancement SRS Trusurround XT
Audio Output Jacks 1 Optical Sound Output
Auto Volume Correction Not Applicable
Speaker Configuration Bottom
Speaker Output Power 10 Watts x 2
Speakers Included
Convenience Features
Built-In Program Guide No
Cabinet Colour Gloss Black
Channel Labeling Yes
Closed Captioning Yes
Language Options English/French
Parental Control Yes
Pedestal Stand Included
Remote Universal
Sleep/Alarm Timer Yes
Wall Mount Optional
Wall Mount Specification VESA Compatible
Inputs/Outputs
A/V (Composite) Inputs 1 - Rear
Cable Card Slot No
Coaxial Cable Inputs 0
Component Video Inputs 2 - Rear
DVI Inputs 0
HDMI Inputs 3
Headphone Jack Yes
IEEE 1394 (Firewire) Inputs 0
Media Card Slots No
Other Inputs/Outputs Wiselink (USB 2.0)
PC Audio Inputs 0
PC VGA Inputs 1 - Rear
S-Video Inputs 1 - Rear
Product Details
Product Service Plan Available Available For Purchase
Warranty Labour 1 Year
Warranty Parts 1 Year
Depth with stand 30.0 cm
Depth without stand 9.1 cm
Height with stand 68.6 cm
Height without stand 62.7 cm
Weight with stand 28.0 kg
Weight without stand 24.8 kg
Width with stand 99.6 cm
Width without stand 99.6 cm

[Iceman3]

Try the link now ...

ith Samsung's stylish 40" LN40A550 LCD HDTV, you'll experience your favourite movies, shows, sports and games in an incredible Full HD 1080p resolution. With the Wide Colour Enhancer, it covers 72% of the colour gamut, and the 30,000:1 true contrast ratio delivers truer blacks and brighter whites. The end result is fully immersive, unparallelled viewing experience
WebID: 10099946
Mfr. Part Number: LN40A550P3FXZC
Video Features
3:2 Pulldown detection Yes
Aspect Ratio Widescreen (16:9)
Brightness Not Provided By Manufacturer
Comb Filter Not Provided By Manufacturer
Display Capabilities 480p/720p/1080p
Display Technology LCD
Dynamic Contrast Ratio 30,000:1
HD Compatible Yes
Input Capabilities 480i/480p/720p/960p/1080i/1080p
Native Resolution 1920 x 1080
Picture-In-Picture Yes
Refresh Rate 60Hz
Response Time 5ms
Screen Size 40"
True Contrast Ratio Not Provided By Manufacturer
TV Tuner ATSC/QAM
Video Processor DNiE+
Viewing Angle 178 Degrees
Audio Features
Audio Enhancement SRS Trusurround XT
Audio Output Jacks 1 Optical Sound Output
Auto Volume Correction Not Applicable
Speaker Configuration Bottom
Speaker Output Power 10 Watts x 2
Speakers Included
Convenience Features
Built-In Program Guide No
Cabinet Colour Gloss Black
Channel Labeling Yes
Closed Captioning Yes
Language Options English/French
Parental Control Yes
Pedestal Stand Included
Remote Universal
Sleep/Alarm Timer Yes
Wall Mount Optional
Wall Mount Specification VESA Compatible
Inputs/Outputs
A/V (Composite) Inputs 1 - Rear
Cable Card Slot No
Coaxial Cable Inputs 0
Component Video Inputs 2 - Rear
DVI Inputs 0
HDMI Inputs 3
Headphone Jack Yes
IEEE 1394 (Firewire) Inputs 0
Media Card Slots No
Other Inputs/Outputs Wiselink (USB 2.0)
PC Audio Inputs 0
PC VGA Inputs 1 - Rear
S-Video Inputs 1 - Rear
Product Details
Product Service Plan Available Available For Purchase
Warranty Labour 1 Year
Warranty Parts 1 Year
Depth with stand 30.0 cm
Depth without stand 9.1 cm
Height with stand 68.6 cm
Height without stand 62.7 cm
Weight with stand 28.0 kg
Weight without stand 24.8 kg
Width with stand 99.6 cm
Width without stand 99.6 cm

Must be old stock they're trying to get rid of, only has 60hz refresh rate all current LCD's have the 120 hz, much better during fast scenes such as hockey, nascar,skiing, and such.

[glencf]

sony xbr6.......................nuff said

[harsh]

just go to the retailer of your choice and spend time comparing the picture. thats all i do and pick out the one i like. all in all that is all that matters not the all feature crap that you not use anyway.

[Zack1990]

i hear ya Harsh, but i need it starting point. I was concentrating on the contrast numbers then they started to change the parameters, so i started to give up. Didn't even realize i should have been looking at the 60 vs 120 numbers :o Also, don't Sharp & Toshiba make 90% of all the screens out there... or am i wrong on that one too?

[polarbear67`]

one thing i have noticed with pretty much all the TV advertisments out there, is, if it is a 120 Hz refresh Model - they will be hawking that feature in theie adds in big letters - otherwise it prolly isnt a 120Hz.

Same goes for relolution - See lots of adds still for HD TVs plasma and LCD, and if the add doesnt say in big letters "1080P" , pretty much 10 times of of 10 - its only a 720P TV

[Iceman3]

one thing i have noticed with pretty much all the TV advertisments out there, is, if it is a 120 Hz refresh Model - they will be hawking that feature in theie adds in big letters - otherwise it prolly isnt a 120Hz.

Same goes for relolution - See lots of adds still for HD TVs plasma and LCD, and if the add doesnt say in big letters "1080P" , pretty much 10 times of of 10 - its only a 720P TV

I agree with ya there Bear, I noticed Walmart's Samsung Plasma tv's are 50" but only 720p have to watch when your buying.

[Zack1990]

k, i know i'm getting lazy here but what do you folks think of these three... which one would you go for.... (once the coke wore off i realized i had run face first into the bill for the 52" toshiba :eek::eek:)...

-http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0770HDS0010111247&logon=&langid=EN#


or


-http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0770HDS0010110882&logon=&langid=EN#


or


-http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0770HDS0010106661&logon=&langid=EN&

[glencf]

i would go with sony they make the best lcds.......i have a sharp aquos 46 inch and a sony 52 inch xbr6...........night and day sony rock very nice pic super sharp......pun intended ...................lol

[bobdines]

i would go with sony they make the best lcds.......i have a sharp aquos 46 inch and a sony 52 inch xbr6...........night and day sony rock very nice pic super sharp......pun intended ...................lol

You cant beat a sony. If you cant afford the xbr6 get a the cheaper Bravia 120.

[glencf]

im with you on this one bob

[polarbear67`]

im with you on this one bob

how could ya go agaisnt a pirate with gun in hand and parrot on shoulder - lol

[Zack1990]

ok, so i just opened a flyer and saw that they have 240hz available now....:mad::confused::confused: should i wait for those suckers to come down in price or just stick with the 120hz models? Crimony, flippin technology! :rolleyes: :)

[polarbear67`]

ok, so i just opened a flyer and saw that they have 240hz available now....:mad::confused::confused: should i wait for those suckers to come down in price or just stick with the 120hz models? Crimony, flippin technology! :rolleyes: :)

depends how bad ya want a TV -

then theres the new laservu from Mitsubishi suppsoed to have twice the colors of any current plasma or LCD: -http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/product/L65A90


I can see ya runnin for the coffee pot now Big Z - lol

[Zack1990]

LOL... ya i'm drink right out of the pot now LOL...

yeah, i've had the laser in the back of my head for a while now but it seems to be fairly 'new' as far as production goes so i thought i would cross it off my list just cuz, well cuz, there ain't enough ram in my brain to cope with this sheeet... lol

[polarbear67`]

LOL... ya i'm drink right out of the pot now LOL...

yeah, i've had the laser in the back of my head for a while now but it seems to be fairly 'new' as far as production goes so i thought i would cross it off my list just cuz, well cuz, there ain't enough ram in my brain to cope with this sheeet... lol

that plus they are 6K still !!!! - lol - This is the technology ole funk was talkin about months ago on here that his group of people had apparently developed and were in court over.

[Zack1990]

i remember that (funk's post)... 6K... sheesh, think i'll wait on that stuff... plus the 240Hz machines seem to be around 4K ... Oh Boy! whadda savings! lol

on a side note PB, does the contrast spec on these lcd units actually mean anything or is it just bs?

[polarbear67`]

i remember that (funk's post)... 6K... sheesh, think i'll wait on that stuff... plus the 240Hz machines seem to be around 4K ... Oh Boy! whadda savings! lol

on a side note PB, does the contrast spec on these lcd units actually mean anything or is it just bs?

i would say it does- More is better to a point - sharp or someone made a million to one contrast ratio unit for proffessional use only - No retail on sale. - Reason: Movie companies wanted a flat panel that could be seen outdoors on a sunny day on location for reviewing movie shoots on site.

Sooooooooo - unless yer gonna set up outside on a sunny day - I'd be happy with 8 or 10K to 1. - Dont think 20K to 1 would be required for indoor applications -lol

[Zack1990]

big time thanks PB! cuts through all the crud in those ads... i knew they were trying to stat bomb me, just didn't know where the bs started and ended. Again PB, huge thanks!

[polarbear67`]

big time thanks PB! cuts through all the crud in those ads... i knew they were trying to stat bomb me, just didn't know where the bs started and ended. Again PB, huge thanks!

ya those stat bombs can make ya feel like you do the morning after a good bender - overcast and foggy, but in your head - lol

[Zack1990]

took the plunge.... Toshiba Regza 42" 1080p 120Hz Flat-Panel LCD HDTV (42XV545U) came with a Pioneer theater system (HTP-3990)... $1500 total. Yeah i know, kinda went from high to a mid range system... but the wallet & starvation diet made the ultimate decision...

[Iceman3]

took the plunge.... Toshiba Regza 42" 1080p 120Hz Flat-Panel LCD HDTV (42XV545U) came with a Pioneer theater system (HTP-3990)... $1500 total. Yeah i know, kinda went from high to a mid range system... but the wallet & starvation diet made the ultimate decision...

Congrats Zack, you'll enjoy it.

[Zack1990]

thanks Iceman, and thanks to everyone who helped out... i know probably seems like a bit of cop out or let down from what i originally intended but the pricing simply nailed me... :mad:

[polarbear67`]

thanks Iceman, and thanks to everyone who helped out... i know probably seems like a bit of cop out or let down from what i originally intended but the pricing simply nailed me... :mad:

right on Zack - make sure you get an optical audio cable for that system man - the sound will blow your socks off, Ultra has the optical jack in the back - but dont spend more that 25 bucks for one - they all the same

[Zack1990]

will do PB, thanks!

[glencf]

took the plunge.... Toshiba Regza 42" 1080p 120Hz Flat-Panel LCD HDTV (42XV545U) came with a Pioneer theater system (HTP-3990)... $1500 total. Yeah i know, kinda went from high to a mid range system... but the wallet & starvation diet made the ultimate decision...enjoy the new setup zack...............cheers

[Zack1990]

thanks Glen... much appreciated!

[Vallarta]

shit Z...52in would have given you life size titties...lol
happy for u spending $1500....i mean congrats on lightening your wallet
ok just enjoy the dam thing...lmao

[Zack1990]

LOL ... you hit the nail on the head, that was the biggest selling point... but then again, my mom always told me i would go blind sitting that close (and naked) to the tv ... LOL

[jibberjabber]

Welcome to the world hi-def!:) You got a hi def receiver? No point havin that beauty without one...:new_all_c

[Zack1990]

jibber, i hear ya... answer is no, not yet, gunna hafta do something about that next... but i have an excuse for now, i can't go out and re-arrange the dish & lnb's right now cuz we don't come outta the igloo here until June... ;):)