The Hamas is Nuts

[polarbear67`]

Geeez , these sandn*&%%@rs are crazier than I thought.

If you have a quick browse through their charter,

-http://www.acpr.org.il/resources/hamascharter.html,

you will soon realize peace is the last thing any of these fruit N nut bars want, and constitutionally impossible to acheive with this document as there tenet

How could anyone at the UN or anywhere else in the world think they can broker a peace with these abberations of nature.


I may be foolish for having made this post cause once they find i will surely be a marked bear myself.

[Grandmama]

Looked at the title and thought this was spam....hahahaha

[Zack1990]

i agree PB... somethings gotta give in that area for peace to happen, and pretty much everyone is to blame at this point for not securing a reasonable peace, but these Hamas idiots are completely wacked. I heard on some news show the other day that none of the arab governments like Hamas.. oh, except for one, hmmm i wonder which one that could be...:eek:

[polarbear67`]

i agree PB... somethings gotta give in that area for peace to happen, and pretty much everyone is to blame at this point for not securing a reasonable peace, but these Hamas idiots are completely wacked. I heard on some news show the other day that none of the arab governments like Hamas.. oh, except for one, hmmm i wonder which one that could be...:eek:

is that a rhetorical question ? - lmao

[captain596]

Israel should have NEVER been pressured into giving them Gaza. It was interpreted as weakness by the Arabs. Now it is time for Israel to hit these douche bags HARD and bring them to their knees. Don't believe the anti-Israel slant of the media. Hamas is a terrorist organization that hides behind it's own women and children. They are devil worshiping Arabs and will all burn in hell.

[Fran]

Israel should have NEVER been pressured into giving them Gaza. It was interpreted as weakness by the Arabs. Now it is time for Israel to hit these douche bags HARD and bring them to their knees. Don't believe the anti-Israel slant of the media. Hamas is a terrorist organization that hides behind it's own women and children. They are devil worshiping Arabs and will all burn in hell.

Now, Now, Now lets all keep calm

[dm3311]

If we wait til their next funeral parade, and we loaded 3 Daiseycutters, problem solved. hheheheheheheh:new_all_c:new_all_c

[Fran]

Geeez , these sandn*&%%@rs are crazier than I thought.

If you have a quick browse through their charter,

-http://www.acpr.org.il/resources/hamascharter.html,

you will soon realize peace is the last thing any of these fruit N nut bars want, and constitutionally impossible to acheive with this document as there tenet

How could anyone at the UN or anywhere else in the world think they can broker a peace with these abberations of nature.


I may be foolish for having made this post cause once they find i will surely be a marked bear myself.

Hey PB, Whatever gave you the idea they are not nuts?:new_all_c

[debbdooba]

Israel should have NEVER been pressured into giving them Gaza. It was interpreted as weakness by the Arabs. Now it is time for Israel to hit these douche bags HARD and bring them to their knees. Don't believe the anti-Israel slant of the media. Hamas is a terrorist organization that hides behind it's own women and children. They are devil worshiping Arabs and will all burn in hell.

I must say, I am in no way a Hamas supporter, but I most certainly do not support Israel either. To say that Israel "gave" them Gaza is a joke. Israel took EVERYTHING from these people. They also control everything and everyone that goes in and out of Palestine. Also, I can never understand how Israel feels the need to defend itself against a people that has no army, navy, airforce, or any military at all. There is also no anti-Israel anything in the U.S run media. As always it is the innocent civilians that want peace that have to pay the price.

[jibberjabber]

And what exactly is Israel supposed to do?? Let them keep firing rockets?? During the so called cease fire they continued to fire on Israel, basically making life for that part of the country unlivable. There have been thousands and thousands of rockets fired since Israel gave up Gaza, with little to no retaliation on their part (other than the blockades which was implemented because of the rocket fire). WHY wasn't the rest of the world up in arms over that?? These slime balls purposely set up their arm caches and rockets in places where there are the maximum amount of innocent civilians. How many countries other that Israel warn when an attack is eminent on a MILTARY target, allowing as many civilians to vacate before they attack. Not the Hamas. The more civilians hurt (especially their own), the better they like it. The whole thing is absolutely nuts....

[ogemah]

Israel should have NEVER been pressured into giving them Gaza. It was interpreted as weakness by the Arabs. Now it is time for Israel to hit these douche bags HARD and bring them to their knees. Don't believe the anti-Israel slant of the media. Hamas is a terrorist organization that hides behind it's own women and children. They are devil worshiping Arabs and will all burn in hell.

how much you know about Israel????
if you do know !!! tell me when Israel was born.... if you dont know .. Israel was born in 1948.... thats mean befor 1948 was no Israel, therefore this land where Israel now is arabic land ( Palestine) November 2nd, 1917

The Belfor Declaration signed guaranteeing a Jewish a homeland in Palestine.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

[Kriton]

I must say, I am in no way a Hamas supporter, but I most certainly do not support Israel either. To say that Israel "gave" them Gaza is a joke. Israel took EVERYTHING from these people. They also control everything and everyone that goes in and out of Palestine. Also, I can never understand how Israel feels the need to defend itself against a people that has no army, navy, airforce, or any military at all. There is also no anti-Israel anything in the U.S run media. As always it is the innocent civilians that want peace that have to pay the price.

Couldn't agree more. I sure hope that if someone ever invaded my country that I would have the resolve to fight them until I was dead. These "brave" Israeli soldiers with their tanks, F-16s, and all the latest military hardware are fighting against people with rocks and rockets made with fertilizer.
And the massive death toll clearly demonstrates the shallowness of the Israeli statement that this operation is retaliatory. What Israel is doing is clearly a War Crime by all the definitions. I simply can't understand how anyone can support either Hamas or Israel in this conflict.

[polarbear67`]

Hey PB, Whatever gave you the idea they are not nuts?:new_all_c

the goddam media sympathizing with these terrorist bastards

[dadssguy]

Nobody talked about the missiles that homeass shot at Israel.........

[polarbear67`]

how bout this - what if farmers and such near the can - us border on the canadian side have been launching rockets from the top of their barns at the us towns along the border for the past three years. killing some and basically causing havoc, with the US peacefully asking us to please stop it already.

finally after three years of constant threat of stray rockets to its citiznes, they decide to invade with force to stop it - Whos the bad guy ????????????

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I thought so:confused:

[polarbear67`]

Nobody talked about the missiles that homeass shot at Israel.........

i just did now dadss - sort of -lol think it makes the point

[polarbear67`]

how much you know about Israel????
if you do know !!! tell me when Israel was born.... if you dont know .. Israel was born in 1948.... thats mean befor 1948 was no Israel, therefore this land where Israel now is arabic land ( Palestine) November 2nd, 1917

The Belfor Declaration signed guaranteeing a Jewish a homeland in Palestine.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

not sure what the whole point of this is, .....


how many new countries were created with the demise of the Soviet union. Are you suggesting they should not exist either ?

[dadssguy]

how bout this - what if farmers and such near the can - us border on the canadian side have been launching rockets from the top of their barns at the us towns along the border for the past three years. killing some and basically causing havoc, with the US peacefully asking us to please stop it already.

finally after three years of constant threat of stray rockets to its citiznes, they decide to invade with force to stop it - Whos the bad guy ????????????

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I thought so:confused:

When Bush Jr went into Iraq my cousin was army and worked at the command center. He said htey had a hell of a time keeping the reporters out of harms way. After Iraq fell the reporters swarmed the country side looking for stories about anti-american centiment. They ignored most of the people who were happy about it....

I think the media should be responsible for what world problems they instigate.

[harsh]

now hezbola wants some media attention so those fools decide to lob a couple rockets into the northern provinces. i guess they figure that they will not get any retaliation...wrong.

[rockettractor]

Why not just go and poke a stick at a qrizzley bear.......and then whine to anyone that listens.......sacifice some women and children at the same time.

[dadssguy]

Why not just go and poke a stick at a qrizzley bear.......and then whine to anyone that listens.......sacifice some women and children at the same time.

Exactly what I was thinking.....
Yet there are many people who will give them sympathy....
Another point.... If the Arab countries are so behind the palestinians having their own country then why haven't they ever caughed up any land from their regions? I am speaking as an American of Irish decent but it seems if everyone over there wants them to have their own state then set one up for them so there will be peace

[mutedmajority]

Israel opened fire on convoy of ambulances and UN medical humanitarian relief after pre-approving their passage yesterday.

[dechef]

"Crash Course on the Arab Israeli Conflict."

Here are overlooked facts in the current Middle East situation.

These were compiled by a Christian university professor:



BRIEF FACTS ON THE ISRAELI CONFLICT TODAY.... ( It takes just 1.5 minutes to read!!!! )

It makes sense and it's not slanted. Jew and non-Jew -- it doesn't matter.



1. Nationhood and Jerusalem. Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, Two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BCE, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 CE lasted no more than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

9. Arab and Jewish Refugees: in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.

10 The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab la nds to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people's lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey .

13. The Arab-Israeli Conflict: the Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians.

19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.

[dechef]

dear mister Ogemah,
you should try using your access to FTA tv to watch discovery , history or even news channels instead of just "debbie does dallas VII"
how can you come out with such an ignorant comment as Israel did not exist before 1948. I can not even imagine where to begin with an education for you. i'm not religous myself , but try the bible or even koran
Just a litlle snippet for you here, a fact that you can check else where.
when israel was returning the siani to egypt way back in 1978, Israel assumed that it would return Gaza, that was captured from the Egyptians in the 6 day war. Well, their assumption was totally wrong and Egypt REFUSED to take Gaza back ! Where else have you ever heard of a country refusing to take back land lost in a conflict ? The thing is .... nobody wants Gaza
Open your eyes , study some real history and realise that any war is not good for any of us

[dechef]

Palestine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Assyrian emperor Sargon II called the region the Palashtu in his Annals. By the time of Assyrian rule in 722 BCE, the Philistines had become 'part and parcel of the local population',[17][18] and prospered under Assyrian rule during the seventh century despite occasional rebellions against their overlords.[11] In 604 BCE, when Assyrian troops commanded by the Babylonian empire carried off significant numbers of the population into slavery, the distinctly Philistine character of the coastal cities dwindled away,[17][19] and the history of the Philistine people effectively ended.[11]

[glencf]

stop the killing...each blames the other and has a million reasons why but there both killing regardless......real people are diyng.....not flashes on tv.....there real .........theres so much more to this .......stop sacrificing blood to the earth she has had enough...........i hope with everything this can stop......................your brothers sisters children sons mothers fathers uncles aunts cousins grandparents ...........dying...........murdered.....for what.......peace to mankind.............we are all the same.....people begot of mother earth.........stop hatred of all kind its just ignorant..........we must kill our egos ,,,,,,before others....................

[Kriton]

how bout this - what if farmers and such near the can - us border on the canadian side have been launching rockets from the top of their barns at the us towns along the border for the past three years. killing some and basically causing havoc, with the US peacefully asking us to please stop it already.

finally after three years of constant threat of stray rockets to its citiznes, they decide to invade with force to stop it - Whos the bad guy ????????????

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For the past 60 years, the Israelis have defied every UN Security Council resolution in their quest to obliterate the voice of resistance. Efforts by various governments to seek a just peace to both parties have failed and will continue to fail as long as Israel engages in such holocausts, undoubtedly encouraged to a great extent by the veto power of the United States at the United Nations. They are also engaging their spin machine within the Western media to justify such atrocities. Comparisons made by the assault on civilians with F-16s and Apache helicopters with fertilizer-fueled rockets border on the ridiculous. Suddenly, fighting for your land and rights is no longer a just cause to some Western columnists, who view any form of Palestinian resistance as a form of terrorism. Talk about hypocrisy! Nice job!

[Kriton]

Oh, and by the way, it appears even the Israelis are questioning the Zionist policies and tactics. Looks like there are very few who still support these atrocities..... many of them seem to be here.

"FOCUS: WAR ON GAZA
Who will save Israel from itself?
By Mark LeVine

One by one the justifications given by Israel for its latest war in Gaza are unraveling.

The argument that this is a purely defensive war, launched only after Hamas broke a six-month ceasefire has been challenged, not just by observers in the know such as Jimmy Carter, the former US president who helped facilitate the truce, but by centre-right Israeli intelligence think tanks.

The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, whose December 31 report titled "Six Months of the Lull Arrangement Intelligence Report," confirmed that the June 19 truce was only "sporadically violated, and then not by Hamas but instead by ... "rogue terrorist organizations".

Instead, "the escalation and erosion of the lull arrangement" occurred after Israel killed six Hamas members on November 4 without provocation and then placed the entire Strip under an even more intensive siege the next day.

According to a joint Tel Aviv University-European University study, this fits a larger pattern in which Israeli violence has been responsible for ending 79 per cent of all lulls in violence since the outbreak of the second intifada, compared with only 8 per cent for Hamas and other Palestinian factions.

Indeed, the Israeli foreign ministry seems to realize that this argument is losing credibility."

After the "brave" IDF soldiers forced Palestinian children into a "safe house" then bombed it the next day killing most of them, it is clear who the disgusting aggressors are.

[dadssguy]

I want to start off with I do not have a favorite side. I have done some news searches outside the USA and there is no way they are all right. Lots of spectacular media coverage trying to get a pulitzer. The media has an ajenda. I believe only half of what the media says.

Second both sides have had a hand in the problems over there. Each has a share of the responsibility. Also those who belong to the united nations have worked their own ajendas too.

The UN is imputant when it comes to these matters. They like to make speaches and point fingers but when it comes down to it they are bullshit. I wish they had stopped Bush and his Oil Ajenda. That is another thread though.

Lets face it, Hamas knew there were factions starting shit. If memory serves they have said this before. THey are letting this happen. The Israelis over react and turn the popular opinion against themselves. This all has happenned before. No big surprise.....

THe only way there is going to be peace is if you take the region and put up an iron curtain like europe had and the UN patrols. A physical wall and a real UN presents is all I can see to stop it. Of course this would involve a disarming and a stop to outside groups interfering.

Of course this is only my opinion. I have not researched the history of the world for supporting facts. THere is snough info on both sides of the issue to argue forever.

[bobdines]

Nothing can stop them.

Sad but it's true.

[glencf]

Nothing can stop them.

Sad but it's true.very unfortunate......but your most probably right..........

[dadssguy]

Nothing can stop them.

Sad but it's true.

Hey Bob... Are you saying that this region has been fighting since the discovery of fire? Then they should be wore out and ready to quit right?

lol